Posts by William Penwell

i learned to read on that book.there were some very disturbing images,like the earth opening up and people falling into it.like upside down ladies and hippies.id love to get a hold of one and peruse it with a friend and some herbal medicine.maybe there is one in the attic?anyway,that and the image of the snake talking to the beautiful,bare shouldered eve,who was holding an apple,made a big impression on me.any else have any faves from that book?is it still being used?.

William Penwell

She said they were being destroyed at Armageddon, because they were all bad people. I looked at the people and I started crying. They didn’t look like bad people to me. They all just looked scared. I couldn’t understand why all that was happening to those people in the pictures.

This is much the same for all of us. I recall not wanting to make worldly friendships or associate with worldy kids as they would be eventually distroyed at Armagddon. What a sick way to posion a young child's mind. It is something even to this day I have to fight against as it is always there in the back of my mind. For years I was not able to really make worldy friends and not have the social skills like normal adults.

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Children of 1975

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what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

William Penwell

Growing up we were told that the JW's never set dates i.e. 1914, 1918 and 1925. That these were lies spread by the "Evil Slave Class" and apostates. Like all good JW's we bought the company line but what I went first hand with 1975, I know now that the Watchtower is capable of telling lies and covering up after the fact.

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2009 Sing to Jehovah Lyrics--PDF----by request!

by Atlantis in

2009 sing to jehovah lyrics--pdf----by request!

request from researcher: i heard about this file but never received a copy and wondered if you had it.

can i get a copy?

William Penwell

I was at my parents a few weeks back and they were talking about the new songs. They were saying that most of the R&F JW's are not overly thrilled with the new songs but like all good dubs they will follow the company line. What is don't get is I can understand why they may change the words as per "new light" but they were saying they also have changed the melody which makes them harder to sing to. What is with that? Maybe they want to get rid of the old Franz and company era.

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Children of 1975

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what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

William Penwell

How much closer can you get to saying 1975 was a marked year as Fred Franz referred to the date in his book "Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God". He speaks of 1975 being the end of the 6 thousand years of human existence. He said "According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E." On page 19 of the October 8, 1966 Awake, they refer again to 1975 as the end of the six thousand years and then on the top of page 20 they say, "It means that within relatively few years we will witness the fulfillment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end." So what do they mean by "a few years"? Ten years, 20 years now 44 years later and the society say they never set a date? There is much more and the eye witness testimony that in a court of law would be enough evidence to charge someone criminally, yet it is just a few disgruntled ex witnesses that are lying.

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Children of 1975

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what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

William Penwell

Another example with me was my father sold the family home in 1974 believing that the end was right around the corner and that what was the sense to have these extra financial burdens going into the "great tribulation". He was told by the society that the economic system was about to collapse, so it would be prudent to then put more effort into the preaching work. My dad is an old man now and I know he regrets getting rid of his life investment. If he would have at least have waited till he retired and then sell the home, my parents would now be financially secure. Instead they have to rely on other family members for support. So don't tell me that this was not from the Watchtower as thousands like my dad were mislead. Is the Watchtower now going to support all these people they lied to? Its now tough luck you are on your own as the GB and Watchtower are sitting on billion dollar real estate that the R&F JW's all bought and paid for.

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Children of 1975

by d in

what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

William Penwell

debator, I cannot speak for you but I was there I lived through it and saw with my own eyes and ears how the RF JW's were mislead. There was no question that 1975 was a set date in the minds of the RF JW's at that time, which was drilled into our heads over and over again from the platform of the Kingdom halls and assemblies. I was only a young impressionable mind at the time and was brain washed by the older ones to think that I would not grow up in this system, that we were to put off higher education and to go into the full time ministry as the time was so short. We were told we had no time to fool around in this present system of things. Only because of myself have I got a good paying job and built up a pension to help me as I get older and live my life out in this present system. So many of my friends like myself who's young minds were easily bend to the Watchtowers propaganda took on this urgency at the time, putting their lives on hold . I know what I say here will not change the way you feel about the Watchtower but I am only telling it like it was to those ones that were too young to remember or that were born after 1975 of what really went on at that time. WP

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Children of 1975

by d in

what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

William Penwell

We are the witness of that generation of what happened and how the society denied it. Believe me I was there and experianced it first hand so no matter what the GB of the Jehovah Witnesses tell you I and many more ex witnesses will tell you it did happen, so they can deny it all they want.

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WT Jan 2011 - Grieving Holy Spirit Defined?

by sabastious in

could alex do?

he might lovingly approach.

steve again and lay bare his fault.

William Penwell

So we must rat out on our friends and shun them otherwise we may grieve the Holy Spirit. No wonder the Dubs are all screwed up